Nothing can justify / glorify armaan and Riddhima

Riddhima is still upset of her failed marriage Kya drama party hai

Thinks she cannot handle relationships ............But when was she in the marriage???? Good question na everyone appreciates an answer..........

After second marriage also the relationship went for a toss which Riddhima herself initiated

But as per CMG the marriage after divorce are better ............WOW .......... barabar hai experienced jo hote hai EMA or dhoka dene mein .................one can camouflage things better and will be able to sustain the lying longer right ..........definitely will be successful in second marriage

So now armaan will marry a divorced girl Kya mahaanta hai ..............

Par divorce hua kyu .............. Riddhima and armaan you guys could not move on and used Sid for your ulterior motives

Sid did not want to hold his wife in a marriage which she felt was only farz.........

Yet why this realization came cause Riddhima have a one night stand with armaan her ex-boyfriend (Now dont dare jump on me that it was not a one night stand cause the starone website says so)

She is now a divorcee and considers it to be a kalank ............... Kalank toh hai par divorcee hona nahi ........ all divorcee are not like you ............you are the Kalank not all divorcees mind you.......

SO CMG stop making a big issue that all divorcees are like your so called protagonist

Your protagonist ' armaan ' cannot move on messes with someones marriage whatever damn reason whether love or lust or whatever crap ............showing him accept Riddhima even if she is a divorcee will not be able to glorify him ..........

Nor does trying to show Riddhima guilty and upset for broken marriage and being upset of divorce going to help

Nothing can justify this relationship and True to every word that the KING KHAN said for KANK ....

Such people are never happy cause

A. They are weak individuals who cannot sustain a strong relationship

B. Doosro ke khusiyon ke kabar pe aapne sapno ka mehal nahi banta

Please note-

1. These are writers views only about the serial and character. There is no intention of bashing any character, person or thing. Hence like previous post I shall stick to events in the serial. Go ahead and discuss however before discussing amongst yourselves please kindly recheck the episodes before commenting

2. Please be courteous in putting forth your views. Please refrain from using derogatory or abusive language Try avoiding fighting amongst yourselves.

3. A.................R FANS PLEASE STAY OUT OF MY POST IF YOU CANNOT TALK DECENTLY.

FURTHERMORE AVOID MAKING DEROGATORY REMARKS, ABUSIVE LANGUAGE AND MAKING  PERSONAL COMMENTS ON ME OR ANY OF THE PERSON/S WHO REPLY TO THIS POST.

THANKS IN ADVANCE IF YOU ADHERE TO THESE RULES.

CVs - Stop playing games with loyal fans

Thank you Mages ........for bringing the topic of fate

Well CVs ........jab armaan ke dates nahi mile toh bola Bhagwan ne khud ye jodi banayi hai...........Sid aur Riddhima ki 

Phir Jab Shilpa ke pataliye kaam karneko toh armaan se bulwaya ............. Jo meine itne dino mein nahi kar paya woh aapne phat se kar diya ......... i.e. Sid aur Riddhima ko milaya

Aur ab ..................Sid nahi hai toh javardasti usko US bhej diya aur ab Riddhima ko bhi bhej rahe ho.................Sid aur Riddhima dono US mein ........................

Kyu kilwad kar rahe ho uss fan group ke saath ..................Dil tod ke unka aur bologe ..........kismat mein hi aise likha tha.............Don't play this dirty game with them...........

TRP ke liye ye sab bhi ab kar rahe ho.....................

So stop playing games on your soo called loyal fans

Riddhima - You Are Really Pathetic............

Riddhima  - The only character I adored, I respected, I defended against all odds and against all those who said she is not worth the effort. I continued to hold her in respect till this morning but

Today she taught me that ..............

Yes she never really  understood and appreciated .......

her FATHER who was a foster parent

1. yet gave her his loving care
2. she blamed him for everything
3. This man whom her own blood mother would not point a finger at cause she knew he was indeed a righteous man

her EX- HUSBAND (SHE INDEED DOES NOT DESERVE SUCH A BLESSED MAN AS A HUSBAND GLAD HE IS NOW HER EX-HUSBAND FREE FROM HER)

1. who supported her in the darkest times of her life
2. gave selfless love
3. gave her courage to face life
4. saved her from all adversities
5. did not ask anything in return
6. always understood her feelings
7. never exercised any rights on her because he respected her as an individual as a lady
8. set her free to do what she chooses
9. did not blame her for the failed marriage which she herself time and again assured him was important to her

this list just goes on ...........................

She was blind, insensitive and stupid enough not to see that her ex-husband whom she never spared a thought never left her side when even when he knew that he would not get anything in return He was always there for her sake

If people like her foster father and her ex-husband have not touched her heart and their pain and misery does not pull at her heart then I am sorry she is inhuman and incapable of any emotion

Like her father said the only person important to her was armaan

A man who time and again abandoned her

Lied and manipulated her time and again

Today again he wanted her to do his wish but when she did not yet (for whatever reasons) again abandoned her with harsh words ...............

Unfortunately she could not even do justice to him also and his obsessive which she thinks is love

Today Riddhima said that everyone who loved her she has hurt them ..........But she does not recollect anyone's hurt and feelings except armaan ......................Not her father not her mother not her sister (about whom armaan has not told Riddhima about how callous and insensitive) nor her husband............only armaan ............

She taught me that

1. she used her husband for pleasure and stability which her eternal love could not give
2. she can never be trusted - she misused the space given by her husband and faith he had in her
3. Never give your 100% to a relationship definitely not if the one you are marrying has had a past They will spit back in your face
4. Other relationships - father mother sister brother in-laws don't mean anything So called Eternal love is most important even if he/she abandoned you twice
5. Help a person in distress but don't ever think of having any kind of nice feelings for that person They will manipulate and use you and then discard you like a used toilet paper
6. Or Never Help a person in distress even if the distress is partially and unintentionally caused by you that person may be there for you only in name of farz and portray as if they have given in to the relationship wholeheartedly and ultimately backstab you. Bottomline either ways you get damaged so save yourself additional trouble Don't help and be accused and be damaged.
7. GET INTIMATE TO CHECK IF THE PERSON INDEED LOVES YOU

She deserves .........

1. every bit of misery she went through in post abandonment phase and now
2. being alone
3. to be abandoned like her blood father and armaan did time and again
4. every tear
5. every pain
6. every fear coming true

SHE DESERVES HER BLOOD FATHER  AND ARMAANS IN HER LIFE

Because She is BLIND NOT TO SEE and APPRECIATE the PEOPLE AND THEIR NICENESS that God sent her way

SHE DESERVES ALL THE HATRED LASHED AT HER INCLUDING THAT OF ARMAAN

SAD BUT TRUE INSPITE OF ALL THE INJUSTICE AND HURT HURLED BY HER AT HER FOSTER FATHER AND EX-HUSBAND THEY WILL BE THE ONLY ONES WHO WILL STILL SUPPORT AND CARE FOR HER IN HER ADVERSITIES.


SAD SHE WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE


PHIR BHI AAJ VAPIS KEHETA HOON
RIDDHIMA  .............. ABHI BHI WAQT HAI SHABHALJA  SUDHARLE APNI GALTIYAAN ...........

NAHI TOH ZINDAGI BHAR AANSHOON BAHENE KE BAAD BHI NAHI SAMJHEGA KI AANSOON KAM PADE YA ZINDAGI


Please note-

1. These are writers views only about the serial and character. There is no intention of bashing any character, person or thing. Hence like previous post I shall stick to events in the serial. Go ahead and discuss however before discussing amongst yourselves please kindly recheck the episodes before commenting

2. Please be courteous in putting forth your views. Please refrain from using derogatory or abusive language Try avoiding fighting amongst yourselves.

3. A.................R FANS PLEASE STAY OUT OF MY POST IF YOU CANNOT TALK DECENTLY.

I DO NOT WANT ANY armaan MAHANTA GYAN OVER HERE IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT RIDDHIMA ONLY THEN TALK OR ELSE DO NOT COMMENT

FURTHERMORE AVOID MAKING DEROGATORY REMARKS, ABUSIVE LANGUAGE AND MAKING  PERSONAL COMMENTS ON ME OR ANY OF THE PERSON/S WHO REPLY TO THIS POST.

THANKS IN ADVANCE IF YOU ADHERE TO THESE RULES.

Love Sex aur Dhoka ......

Yesterday I tried to understand everyone's perspective But overwhelmed the reader with many questions

So from the serial's and general perspective let try understanding only these three areas

Many (Shashank Padma Shilpa JP Jiggy even armaan at one point) felt that Sid and Riddhima were in love. But these two never had a physical relationship. Riddhima on her honeymoon also said that though we are not together yet we are together. I feel this is love. So I infer that the physical aspect did not bother her or Sid for that matter. So was a loveless marriage? physical yes but also emotional?

It is  a saying that Marriages are made and broken in the bedroom. Sad but true Sid and Riddhima's marriage story is this. Is physical intimacy which really defines whether a marriage is complete, successful and you are truly in love with your partner?


Riddhima was very caring towards armaan and loved him? This care actually lead her to be unfair to her relationship. Toh usne dokha diya Sid ko ????.......was she really unfair to Sid cause she cared and loved armaan???? But What if she is caring towards Sid when married to armaan? Would that be right and fair? Kya ye dokha nahi hoga???


Since Riddhima called her marriage farz and it being loveless then why is Riddhima so upset of her failed loveless marriage and divorce?  There was no love from her side hence she should not be so upset. If she only cares for Sid she should be happy he has not taken offense and will move to better life where he will be loved? What bothers her? Whom does she love and in love with? Can a lady do all that Riddhima did with Sid only out of farz in real?????

Some rule for discussing here
1. Do not bash any character, person or thing.

2. Please be courteous and respectful in putting forth your views. Please refrain from using derogatory or abusive language Try avoiding fighting amongst yourselves.
3. FURTHERMORE AVOID MAKING DEROGATORY REMARKS, ABUSIVE LANGUAGE AND MAKING PERSONAL COMMENTS ANY OF THE PERSON/S WHO REPLY TO THIS POST.


THANKS IN ADVANCE IF YOU ADHERE TO THESE RULES.

CVS - Using the Russian Strategy

During World War II Russia was invaded by the Hitler's army .

As Hitler's army advanced the Russian army adopted a unique strategy.

The Russian army destroyed everything in the village the exited from. They did not leave food nor water nor anything whether of use or not.

The CVs are also doing the same thing.

They are butchering each and every character so badly that every sane person will detest having to watch them with all their guts.

This will save them the trouble of not having to make another season because no one would like to watch such butchered characters ever again. Also no one would see any profitability or feasibility to buy rights for using these characters or storyline.

Wah !!! Kya strategy hai !!!

But have to say A BIG THANK YOU THIS RULES OUT ANOTHER SEASON

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPARING US THE TORTURE !!!

CVs - Kyu nahi dikhta..............

Well CVs have conveniently forgotten the SR past. Hence, I will take the liberty to forget about the AR past (season 1)
This is not done in bad taste but keeping in mind the chance of events and the current track.
Let's start afresh keeping in mind that one should live in the present and look towards the future.
So I would not really want to elaborate on what many have already said such as ..............

Riddhima cares for Sid
She feels his presence and imagines him
She is affected by Sid and his touch
She wants to spend time her rest of her life with him and him saying I love you always
If he does not do as she chooses e.g. wear her chosen shirt; she sulks
She is playful with him
She is hurt when he is in pain
She is upset even now that Sid gave her divorce papers second time and wished her luck after asking her to finish the samjhote ki shadi etc etc etc etc etc ............

Is this farz???? CVs think so  .......... thik hai ..............

Well Logic fails when you can't comprehend what already exists.

Now coming to the current track .........

armaan aur Riddhima do log jinka naam kabhi alag nahi liya jaata (armaan's dialogue)
Their love which is being professed as Eternal Love ..........

Humne armaan ki Riddhima ko paane ki intehan dekhi ........... (referring to current track)

Lekin ............


Riddhima ......... uske pyaar mein jo siddhat thi
Uske pyaar ki jo intehan dekhi thi
Uske aankhon mein jo junoon dekha tha
Woh aaj kaha hai
Ab jab saab kuch sahi hai (CVs viewpoint)
Kyu bhag rahi hai Riddhima ............
Kyu nazarein chura rahi hai us khawab se jo ab sach ho sakta hai

Phir aaj kyu nahi dikhta........ Riddhima ki aankho mein armaan ke liye pyaar...............


Please note-

1. These are writers views only about the serial and character. There is no intention of bashing any character, person or thing. Hence like previous post I shall stick to events in the serial. Go ahead and discuss however before discussing amongst yourselves please kindly recheck the episodes before commenting

2. Please be courteous in putting forth your views. Please refrain from using derogatory or abusive language Try avoiding fighting amongst yourselves.

3. I do not intend to hurt any person's feelings If it unintentionally has happened please accept my apologies

The Real Test of Riddhima Begins ..........

Title Credit goes to Jatin Thakkar

Yesterday Riddhima did not look shattered because of her broken marriage. She stated that as a matter of fact.

She was trying to be a little relaxed, trying not putting too much mind to the irritating factors in her mind, trying to find happiness and solace.

Riddhima being true to her character traits is trying to be true to the promises she made and yet be herself.

She promised the person whom she dearly cares for that she will be happy. She is now on her quest to search her happiness once again. How, with whom, where will she find her it she does not know yet she will strive to find it.

That person always respected her for what she was as an individual as a lady. She also some days back she expressed wishes to be 'The Riddhima Gupta' who not a daughter, sister, someone's desire nor a wife. She wants to be an Individual. 

During the last few months, this character has gone through many stages i.e. death of Riddhima (which we mourned), return of basket (which some rejoiced) and now the rise of The Riddhima Gupta - An Individual.


She well understands where she stands today and where the men in her life will stand.

She is anxious about armaan because she knows he is not one who can be trusted. He has broken it too many times in the past and may do so in future also. Hence, she is currently maintaining her distance from him regardless what feelings she has for him. (I have my own version others can have theirs).

She finds solace that Siddhant will be fine as he always does the right thing. He will fulfill the word he has given her. He is a pure heart.

She has given her body to armaan whom she does not trust but she has given her soul to Siddhant because she trusts him. That is why she is will always remain a chaste lady. Her heart and soul will lie with one she loves and respects immensely.

With these facts of her life she will have to brave her past, live her present and seek her future. She will have to live on and search her individuality and try evolving into a stronger lady.

And I Support Riddhima for this. Sid would have also supported her She knows it .......Hence she says uska pyaar uska saath zaroor dega.


This is the beauty of this character, Riddhima. On a serious note the makers of this character have not understood the beauty of their creation. Many a times it happens, the creator is oblivious of the miracle they have created.

Here, I present you Riddhima - The Lady once again. Here the Real Test of Riddhima Begins..............

My purpose for coming to this forum is now complete.

Cheers !!!
DJ



Please note-

1. These are writers views only about the serial and character. There is no intention of bashing any character, person or thing. Hence like previous post I shall stick to events in the serial. Go ahead and discuss however before discussing amongst yourselves please kindly recheck the episodes before commenting

2. Please be courteous in putting forth your views. Please refrain from using derogatory or abusive language Try avoiding fighting amongst yourselves.

armaan - the weakest person/character/protogonist

armaan is a man who loved Riddhima and found no life beyond her. For him to have her for him was of supreme importance and for which he can and have surpassed all limits.
He promised Riddhima umpteen times that he would move on in life for her happiness. He would respect her every decision.
armaan is one person who makes promises yet he is never able to fulfill them. His limitations stop him from doing so. He is human. A human who is not strong; emotionally nor intellectually; to understand the importance of these promises or consequences of his actions. Hence, time and again he has failed people around him. He does not understand the vulnerability of Riddhima at the moment that he is demanding her presence in his life.
Riddhima took armaan's promises at face value knowing very well that these will never be fulfilled. She expressed her views many times i.e. after the birthday party when she said 'Usse kuch nahi hoga' (the pun was intended there by her). Also, yesterday when she said 'apne kaam se kaam rekhiyega Dr armaan IMPOSSIBLE mujhe careful rehena hoga'.
armaan will always continue to live in his dream world weaving another dream world for Riddhima and himself. Yet, he will never understand that the dream world will not be realized as he lacks the maturity, understanding and intellect that is required to make this dream a reality.
This person needs to be sedated always like an addict or an unstable person needs to be; else he would be harmful to himself and others.
Riddhima is his sedative and maybe will be there for him to be his support.
Maybe tomorrow we may see Riddhima being his partner for life. But in this relationship she will have to be the strong person supporting the weak.
Humanity and Nature teaches that weak and stunted need to be supported. Just like a tree supports the creepers as they cannot support themselves.
Hence, I support armaan.
On a serious note the makers of this character have not understood their tainted creation. Many a times it happens, the creator is oblivious of the disaster they have created. Even God many times did not realize the disaster they were inviting when they granted the wishes to their worshipers.


Please note-

1. These are writers views only about the serial and character. There is no intention of bashing any character, person or thing. Hence like previous post I shall stick to events in the serial. Go ahead and discuss however before discussing amongst yourselves please kindly recheck the episodes before commenting

2. Please be courteous in putting forth your views. Please refrain from using derogatory or abusive language Try avoiding fighting amongst yourselves.

3. I do not intend to hurt any person's feelings If it unintentionally has happened please accept my apologies

To CV Arsh SR ar fans & All with MY APOLOGY

Kindly note: I would instruct the children on this forum to please do not continue reading. There are other important things that you need to read. Kindly do not take this as humor or sarcasm. Thank you.
Also when I sayTo CVs, Arsh SR, AR fans & All  I say with no hard feelings This contains MY APOLOGY

I will bifurcate the post as per the people it is for so you all can read the part you want and leave the rest if you feel so.

To CVs / PH
Key points
1.  Strong Story Line - The writer in her interview mentioned that initially there was no specific story line. All were trying to put the best foot forward. Good approach in a start up.
But later if you do not channelize and streamline things then yes you will have problems. And you did. It has indeed led to debacle.

Situations and constraints should not define how you take the story forward. The story and character should always take precedence.


2. Inadequate emphasis to the character -  The character carries the story forward not the actor.
Best example I can give is of Mihir's character in Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahu Thi Many may not remember the first actor who played Mihir without goggling the net. But do they remember the last?
When the first Mihir left; there was a lot of protesting. However, that did not stop the PH from hiring new one and taking the story forward. Slowly and steadily people adapted.

3. Lack of Confidence - You need have conviction in what you want to show.  I still do not feel you have conviction in showing aR together because all questions raised on the forum are tried to be answered in the following episode.

4. Courage - Cowardice does not help.
If you have the courage; show us what you can do to control the situation instead of situations and people's views control you and your storyline.
If you had given us new actors or logical story line at the nth moment we would have still accepted.
Some would take time but they would cause majority of your viewers are mature people who tune in at 8 after a long day to see good quality entertainment which does not mean glossy or hot scenes and dance numbers but a good story line.

TRY IT and TRY US............You will never fail You will get TRPs.
Edits......
5. Many will say that real life and reel life/soaps are different - Well writers are inspired / influenced by reality and vice versa. Hence both way responsibility is important. If  you don't fulfill yours and continue professing wrong values and ideologies. Then the other has to ............


I have not talked about things that all the SRians or the mature crowd are talking since you can reference the same from the individual posts and my posts also. But do so if you can reason and do justice by confronting those questions and atleast answering to yourself.


Riddhima's character -  I saw strength of character and integrity in Riddhima hence took a liking to her. Majority of my posts are only about Riddhima  who is now a indeed butchered.
A protagonist whom no one wants nor is respected for her strengths which she should be portraying. Sad but true she is shown soo weak...........
But inspite of the butchering I will always carry fond memories of Riddhima............... she was indeed a beautiful character ruined now ..............

Last but not the least............ if you think you have done well by accepting aR fan base request over a strong story line. Then here it is for you written by a aRian 'the creative head confirmed and they rnt stupid to mess with AR fans'
This comment was later edited by the writer but still can be seen in one reply where it is quoted and I have a print screen of it


Another thing; what you have glorified  in recent times. Hope this does not happen to your loved ones.
Please check my post for details. It is a true story 


http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1502347

And please kindly do not hold another conference instead brainstorm on  how to salvage the situation ...................It still can be salvaged..................... I am no great writer ..........But I think about business sense and logic and take humane approach.
Trust me if think of it ...............anything is possible an d yes you will get your Excellent TRPs back ..............
DON'T MAKE A HALFHEARTED ATTEMPT ...TRY YOURSELF AND TRY THE AUDIENCE ..............BUT NOT EVERYONE'S PATIENCE 



And if you wish to have press conferences then please I think I as a Riddhima fan would like a scene by scene explanation of how what and why she did what is shown...............

Srians & Arshians
Arshians were shown a beautiful dream and stolen away very rudely. I am sure much better is to come.
Srians -  Less said the better........ All have shown immense patience at times while trying to question logic. On a personal note; none of the arguments posted are incorrect.
We are people who loved the hope couple we shall hope to find better entertainment elsewhere.
Also we do not hold on to the past because we let go and let live.  We are sane enough to not take moral lessons from this serial atleast except one character that is Sid which now the CVs will butcher.
Don't cry about it ............ We still take the essence with us.

To Arians
I am genuinely happy for your group. One thing I learn from your group is 'try till you succeed'. But a question remains is it worth?
From what I understand from the style of posts you all belong to a very young age group. Hence, such craze is expected from this age group. But point to be noted is ................. one should learn from looking around oneself ............... Hope you learn the right things God bless you. I am not being sarcastic.


@All
As this is indeed my final post on MF which I had promised in my previous post (http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1502580) and so here it is

I AM SORRY FOR DEFENDING RIDDHIMA'S EACH AND EVERY ACTION AND ASKING ALL TO UNDERSTAND HER AS I CONSIDERED HER EVERY BIT OF A LADY WHO DESERVES RESPECT.

By degrading Riddhima character woman hood is portrayed in bad light. Arians did name calling when she was with Sid and now Srians are not accepting the fact that she indeed loves armaan (which if still shown then she has indeed used Sid for her ulterior motives. That is the only conclusion that can be drawn.).
Like mentioned in my previous post. The basket has returned and she has chosen her miseries And after she return back to her ex-lover her character is destroyed beyond repair. (which I know all will say her current husband wants her to. But no respectable man will hold another against that person's will.)

Yet we shall continue to hold fond memories of Riddhima and respect her cause we believe every human (not thing aka basket) has a right to happiness Hence so does Riddhima cause we still will respect her for the lady she was. However; destroyed her character may be shown and no respectable human would want to be associated with her. Yet any respectable human will always look at Riddhima with respect cause she indeed is a lady and a human. And respectable humans give all respect.
But no sane person can defend her actions now. So here it is once again.....

I AM SORRY FOR DEFENDING RIDDHIMA'S EACH AND EVERY ACTION AND ASKING ALL TO UNDERSTAND HER AS I CONSIDERED HER EVERY BIT OF A LADY WHO DESERVES RESPECT.

With this would like to say Goodbye. This shall be my last post on MF. I had a nice time interacting with many of you. An enriching experience in terms of wonderful nice pleasant and humane views that many shared with all.

Like always I shall put my disclaimer (though altered version) which was criticized by a fan saying it was strategically put. But my question to CVs is EMA is not a new concept and have been shown on television Why was the disclaimer running during the scene. Isn't a general disclaimer adequate? If not then I would recommend please have a disclaimer for every action of armaan and Riddhima during the recent few month's episodes.
  Please note-

1. Please refrain from using derogatory or abusive language Try avoiding fighting amongst yourselves.

2. I am trying to put my views forth and do not intent to hurt any person's feelings intentionally. If it unintentionally has happened please accept my apologies. Furthermore I have been courteous in giving my views hence kindly do consider before posting allegations that I have bashed.

CVs - PLEASE SPARE THE MEN

Well I had mentioned that I was not going to post on main forum as Riddhima's character which is very dear to me is destroyed.  Every month she has a realization she has a husband who is important and she glows in love, gets naughty with him and says don't ever leave always say I love you (cry cry cry sob sob sob) and then in the 9^th month ---she screams armaan I still have feeling for you ............. (cry cry cry sob sob sob)

Ok so Riddhima is not the intention of this post I had some doubts so just thinking aloud

Riddhima is supposed to be a modern independent girl etc etc etc.  (the characterization on the star one website says)

So effectively woman can be like Riddhima also as portrayed by the CVs. Since the writer is also a woman she will know better what women are? So this can be also the face of a woman ...............not what I have been professing ............(if you have not read my posts please go read before jumping to conclusion what I profess)

So Riddhima cares a damn for family (why should she Shashank is not her real father nor anjali her sister)

Manipulates and uses people as resources at your disposal (if Shashank Anjali  Sid and armaan love her  its their problem) She can pretend she loves them turn by turn and use for her ulterior motive and discard like she did to her father or armaan or now Sid.

Father raised her ' but she was more armaan armaan
armaan left her ' she was SID SID SID TUM hi meri sachai ho
armaan came back ' Ohhhhh mera pyar jhuta nahi tha..............chalo sid se jhute pyar ka naatak karti hoo ....pakdi gayi toh farz bol doongi............ win win situation ..............armaan bhi mera Sid bhi mera Father bhi not upset.............aree penthouse bhi mera ........


Dishonest and Hypocrite - Lie Lie Lie through your teeth and then tell all you should not tell lie ....armaan mujhe kuch nahi batata (cry cry cry sob sob sob)
Chalo so this is supposed to be realistic so I guess as per the CVs today's woman is supposedly like Riddhima. .........they may be right the writers are themselves women

Cool but are the men like armaan and Sid ?????


Stupid enough not to understand that a woman is using him? Riddhima used both armaan and Sid for her ulterior motives. She has put both the men through emotional and armaan through physical torture also.

What am I to infer that are men like this ????

All along Riddhima kept telling I don't love you armaan I am Sid's wife and armaan was like Tum chahati Sid ko karwa chauth ka wrath rako........ and later come let have party .............. and etc etc etc    are you in love with her or what .............. do you have a life ????

And Sid ' You don't love me go to armaan ..............jao jee lo apni zandagi ........ I love you I love you I love you but go to armaan and then to armaan he will hand over his old lollipop and tell him ye le tumhari hai and now let's PARTY ...............Emotions naam ki cheez hi nahi

Sid is shown shameless to party with a person who get intimate with his wife and armaan is shown shameless enough to actually get intimate with someone else's wife ..............and then party with that fellow ..........why cause he is going away handing over the girl to him and why sid cause his wife has found true love after EMA ............ wow ....................mahaan hai aaj ki naari aur use bhi mahaan hai aaj ke mard..................

Does armaan have no self respect ............ Riddhima is rejecting him soo many times even if she really loves him Does his self respect mean nothing to him and Sid less said the better............. Riddhima wanted to die .................. instead of marry him............. chuck it mahaan kyu bana ...............no self respect ..............he should have called her parents and told them here is your daughter tata  I am going to Houstan  He did not do it then now he is saying I have to move I will not try to find you Riddhima;  armaan tu ja lover boy dulhainya le jayenge .................... and armaan shameless enough be shown being all happy having broken a marriage however unsuccessful I think he considered Sid close to him or maybe he was acting  ..........or........ .his wife is behaving weird and overtly concerned about a another man who is her ex and Sid keeps harping NO I understand I really understand .............. I really really understand

What are the CVs trying to say men are

Stupid / Insensitive / care a damn for a woman repute / having affairs / using women / manhandling them / handing over to one another like a commodity / back stabbing / SHAMELESS/having no self respect

Are men like this that you portray them this way?????? 

Chalo the writer is a woman she understands what a woman is and can write it that way............but please go and take a man's opinion on your script screenplay and story .............. before portraying men like this

Maybe the last that is remaining to see is Shashank -

Love to see a Shashank scene now.......... I am sure he will say Sid acha ladka tha .............. par armaan usse bhi achaa hai ..........beta .............tum hi meri beti se bohoooooooooot pyaar karte ho ............. shaadi karlo........Padma mithai lao ..........Riddhima ki shaadi teh ho gayi

All in All I will say you want to make a mockery of womanhood as you are one yourself Please go ahead .................
SPARE A MAN'S IMAGE ............WE ARE BETTER OFF THAN YOU

Be happy short note
But Please Note -
1. Please refrain from using derogatory or abusive language Try avoiding fighting amongst yourselves.

2. I am trying to put my views forth and do not intent to hurt any person's feelings intentionally. If it unintentionally has happened please accept my apologies. Furthermore I have been courteous in giving my views hence kindly do consider before posting allegations that I have bashed.

Theory Practical & Tests of Love

Strict instructions - This post is not for people under the age of 18. Do not proceed if you do not fulfill the criteria. Reader's discretion is appreciated. Thank you.


There is a lot of confusion at times whether you love a person or 'in ' love with a person To understand better we would like to take you through the test of love
This test is divided into two parts
1. Theory
2. Practical
Let's try to understand the theory questions first. If you are clear in theory practical are always easy. Engineers and BSc grads will agree.


Theory
Answer these four questions and you will know whether you love the person or not (All questions to be answered)
Please note - The prospective person is the person for whom you are trying to decide your feelings

1. Whom do you think of most?
Ans - It should be the name of the prospective person

2. Would you feel nice if you see the prospective person with another girl / boy?
Ans : NO A BIG NO

3. Who is that one person whom you like that you find life empty if he goes away?
Ans: But preferably the name of the prospective person ............This is little subjective question one can feel life empty even if their dog is lost or dies

4. Who is that one person with whom you would like to walk the journey life holding his / her hand?
Ans - It should be the name of the prospective person

Assessment : If answer to all the questions above match with the sample with an exception to question 3 then you are love the person
If answer to question 3 is also the name of the prospective person then too you love the person
So how do you decide whether you are in love with a person?
For that we have to practical

Practical -
This is called the acid test. (Something like litmus test remember chemistry). This will tell you whether you are definitely 'in 'love with a person or not
Have some intimacy with the person.
If you able to reciprocate then you are in'; if not you just love the person.
If not then you just love the prospective person.
So now go decide whether you are love or are 'in ' love with a person. Now you can go ahead and apply the knowledge

Lecture over


Please note -

1. This post should be not taken too seriously and also should not be considered as bashing. I am humoring the situation. Request all to please refrain from using abusive language. We definitely can be humorous without being abusive.

2. These are writers views only and do not intend to hurt any person's feelings If it unintentionally has happened please accept my apologies

Oye !!! Yeh kya tha ...........

I would have loved to name this post Riddhima - The Epitome of Confusion However, it does not go well with my image Type cast ho gaya hoo as Riddhima defender ....Kya kare .....koi believe nahi karega

Plus there will be people who will come saying I am bashing though I am just pointing out continuity issues So let me be safe
I will refer to dialogues
Here it comes .............

Riddhima to armaan  -  Mein farz ka rashta apnane jaa rahi hoon

AR will interpret as She want to continue with her marriage for farz


Theek hai

Phir ye kya tha ..........


Riddhima to Sid  -  Mujhe ek moka do mein is baar koi galti nahi hone doongi

AR and SR will interpret as She wants to continue with her marriage


Aur ye aayi GOOGLY


Riddhima Self Talk

Meine socha tha ki mein tumhare (SID) zindagi se hamesha ke liye chali jaoingi


OH LORD !!!!!  TOH FARZ KAUNSA NIBHANE WALI THI

Ab hum kya bole ............. CONTINUITY ISSUES OR RIDDHIMA CONFUSED

Dialogues so show MAJOR CONTINUITY ISSUES hence the CONFUSION

Or should I say RIDDHIMA'S CONFUSION has led to CONFUSING THE CONTINUITY PERSON

Well this is only for the dialogues baki ka toh............ less said the better


CVs ....Hamari Mano Go hire a dozen continuity persons Do yourself a favor

Please note-

1. These are writers views only about the serial and character. There is no intention of bashing any character, person or thing. Hence like previous post I shall stick to events in the serial. Go ahead and discuss however before discussing amongst yourselves please kindly recheck the episodes before commenting

2. Please be courteous in putting forth your views. Please refrain from using derogatory or abusive language Try avoiding fighting amongst yourselves.

3. I do not intend to hurt any person's feelings If it unintentionally has happened please accept my apologies

Demise of Humanity - Armaan Glorified

Title credit goes to Lennie Thank you soo much Lennie

armaan 

The beloved doctor, lover of Riddhima, a dear friend, etc etc etc. This character is a CULT figure amongst the teenagers and youth.

Cult figures actions and reactions create huge impact. armaan's also do......... It is quite amazing how his 30 missed calls created a rage. Cute indeed cute.
He wrote his lovers name in his blood etc etc etc  And he does comes across as the most sauve and charming net net the greatest lover and all that everyone makes out of him 

Let me tell you a real incident of a friend Last month I attended his father's funeral and soon .......... hope not
This person a fun guy great friend, excellent in all aspects.............But

He was in a relationship with a girl whose parents did not agree....... he was sooo disturbed that he used to remove frustration at home Has attempted suicide 3 times His performance has suffered His father was feeling let down and that he has let his son down committed suicide Some days back he message me Aaj mere pyaar ki barsi hai ......... it was his anniversary actually
He is glorifying his loss .........so much that he lost his father, his mother lost her husband and sister lost a father / guardian leave alone the other extended family
No but from what I see that is the glory of love
But yes ............. this is the glory of lovers......... How cute he cut his wrist to write her name (he did that before passing out and rushed to the hospital)........... consumed poison cause he could not think of anyone else.......... Eternal Lover he is indeed.
He can become a huge motivator for the lovers of this generation That in today's day and age there are still armaans in real life ..................... On a serious note do you girls want his number Can pass it on He may use you and you can have a armaan in real life But yes he is still crazy about his ex girlfriend You can be his Shilpa
He is my armaan 
Is this glory of love??????
This is what I understand from the serial and character of armaan
The character traits that the writer said are of armaan actually  mention something quite different from what portrayed. No actually what the writer said is true armaan is still in character ........... then why do some feel he is being negative and pyschotic only now .............. Because armaan became a cult figure back then hence all his actions were how cute how romantic ................The character traits went unnoticed.
Net Net I understand one thing ........... To achieve the glory of love ............. I need to be a armaan ( my pain my love and desires need to be glorified and also as the writer said he is anti establishment, used all means including lying etc etc etc check the interview yourself for reference) BOTTOM LINE - Be a LATENT BEAST 
That is what WOMEN LIKE - LATENT BEASTS
Treat them like objects, push shove them, dump them if you feel you might lose them, etc etc etc
This is the glory of love and glory of armaan
Or is it further glorification of a cult figure and their love.......... Think............. I hope we do not need to attend many funerals
My friend's age is 28yrs Wonder what effect such portrayal has on teenagers

This incident is completely true PLEASE DO NOT HUMOR IT

Please note I am not blaming this incident on the serial or any one associated with the serial Just trying to understand how movies and serials have such a huge impact on human's life and thinking Maybe that is why the responsibility is greater for both the makers and viewer.


If you have read till here ..only if possible Please say a small prayer for my friends dead father......... God let his soul rest in peace Amen.
It would be great if you reply this post starting with Amen for the prayer......
Thanks in advance

Please note : This is not a post for bashing the character ...... Just trying on an insight on cult figures like the character himself has become and understanding its effects on people.
Also these insights are the writer's opinion only. However the character traits mentioned above are those of the writer of the serial Kindly refer to her interview posted on the forum DO NOT EXPECT EXPLAINATIONS ON THE SAME FROM ME I AM NOT THE WRITER OF DMG.

Please note-

1. These are writers views only about the serial and character. There is no intention of bashing any character, person or thing. Hence like previous post I shall stick to events in the serial. Go ahead and discuss however before discussing amongst yourselves please kindly recheck the episodes before commenting

2. Please be courteous in putting forth your views. Please refrain from using derogatory or abusive language Try avoiding fighting amongst yourselves.

3. I do not intend to hurt any person's feelings If it unintentionally has happened please accept my apologies

Mourning Riddhima's death (*Updated October 12th*)

Since the thoughts I wanted to talk of were related to Riddhima and since I intent not to make any further posts on MF I have update the post with the additions.

Please read below starting from Updated on October 8th


Riddhima ' The way I saw her
A warm hearted, kind, intelligent and modern in her outlook to life. She is indeed every bit of an individual who has a mind of her own and who has come to respect herself and others connected to her. She cares for all and puts others happiness before hers.  She would not hurt anyone intentionally. She is understanding. She is making all attempts to move forward in life She will not take blatant injustice lying down.  She feel secure about herself.
I will not beat around the bush...... I say Riddhima was every bit of the above before she met armaan and she came back around to being herself when she met Sid.
But today We mourn Riddhima's death as armaan's Basket returns.........
Riddhima ' The Basket
Love brings a lot of emotions. So the changes ......... She became insecure, irrational and would not think twice before how her actions affected others except one. She became selfish.
Yesterday when she subtly rejected Sid once again. We once again saw the return of Basket.......
What is Basket '
She is that thing that which is the object of armaan's love and passion.
No respect for herself. Does not understand that she also exists as a lady as an individual
Who holds armaan's being and happiness superior over all So much that every other person's existence ceases
Weak and fickle minded
Insecure
Indeed the BASKET HAS RETURNED
And I will not be able to defend Riddhima because she is no more an Individual, a lady but an object. She chooses to be that. She is empty from inside. One where somebody dumps whatever wanted or unwanted. When dumped with something wanted the basket is a kept well or when with unwanted the basket is treated like dirt. This is the exact way her relationship with armaan is and she accepts that. (if you want I can give you the day scene and dialogue even the color or Riddhima's and armaan clothes in that scene without having to watch the scene again .................SO DON'T ARGUE)
Yesterday once again she chooses her miseries over happiness.
Yes she is right she does not deserve love. Love of her father whom she insulted, a friend and husband. But she definitely deserves armaan (that is why they may end up together) Cause she has chosen to be what he wants her to be. She chooses desertion. She chooses lies, deception, physical abuse etc etc etc.
But then that should be fine .......... she has chosen her destiny to live as an object. And anyways objects don't have feelings. I can't even pity Basket cause objects don't require that.
Womanh is divine being as they have varied roles. Their very being is made of selfless love, affection, devotion, care ............. A woman is strong. God has made them such. This divinity that one can see in a woman is destroyed
We have done our share of defending Riddhima's actions/reactions/dialogues.
Now Basket if ever wants to get her existence as a woman back she needs to first feel like one. She will need good 3-5 odd episodes explaining her silence at all those points when she should have spoken and explain her behavior for everyone's benefit ..... Shashank, Sid, armaan and us audience.  
Out and out I know that this ain't happening. Hence the basket has returned..............
Who all are responsible I don't wish to decipher ....characters, story, or anything / anyone else ............
All in all I will say Women are the women's biggest enemies  
As this character is realistic (not joking) cause it will influence other young girls to behave similarly and men to believe that it is indeed fine to treat ladies like basket was treated not like Sid treated Riddhima cause she will spit back on his face and reject him. Now understood why I said I was not joking
But we as men of dignity and honour will continue to see the ladies in our life with love, respect and affection. Just the way I saw Riddhima cause she was a lady not a object.

This is my last post as the character about whom I write the most is no more a character......she has been turned into a mere object. They have given her a silent role and abused the character to twist the story different ways all times. Riddhima if at all was realistic character she would have atleast lashed out or had a mental breakdown instead of the confusion/dilemma or either because of the confusion/dilemma. And I cannot defend her anymore because she is an object. Objects don't need defending.
With this I thank all for the support, feedback and love that you all have given. This shall also be my last post on the MF and me being a DMG viewer cause I cannot see the mockery especially that of a lady's dignity, integrity and divinity anymore.


****Edited ***- If Riddhima goes back to armaan Or in second scenario She goes with Sid and does say and mean she loves yet still harbors love for armaan ( i know a person can love two people Rose from Titanic) Knowing the mess he has put her through. She is a destroyed character a degradation of womanhood. I will come back then one last time on MF to post a apology for defending Riddhima the lady and asking people to try to understand her. I respected for what she was supposed to be portrayed.
Riddhima - Lady speak speak now that is the only way you can help everyone and yourself.............. Your supporters defending you will not help Only you can help yourself......... and God helps those who help themselves ........Your supporter or admirers will always be there for you But first help yourself SPEAK
Updated on October 8th, 2010
Yesterday we saw Riddhima thinking not a daughter, not a sister, not a wife but as an individual...... It is true that before anything else a person is an individual ..........
Like Sid has said he wants Riddhima to have her own thoughts, opinions and desires. It is important cause only if a person is clear as to what one wants as an individual can he do justice to the other roles one plays in life. Only when one is at peace with oneself can he spread happiness around.
Another point that was noticed is that subtly we saw Riddhima taking over the basket....... Riddhima subtly and silently made her decision known...... However, it becomes essential to make it emphatically known cause very honestly the makers cannot be trusted as to how they will twist the story/words once again.
Earlier I had spoken that Riddhima has gotten her first jolt ....(via tent incident - knowing the possible pain she will give her loved ones) and she will get further jolts which will make her realize where her loyalties lie. And these jolts will result in giving jolts to armaan to wake him up from his dream world. Yesterday was the second jolt given to Riddhima. The fear of losing Sid (for whatever reasons). I know this will not go down well with many. But she was surely was shown more concerned for Sid than armaan. Reason she needs to clarify.
She yesterday gave the series of jolts to armaan. First was when she said she does not love him which he has ignore. Yesterday's best of three were again a series of jolts which she gave armaan. Last one had an more lasting effect.
What remains to be seen is whether they will maintain her dignity and integrity today.......... Don't know............Let's wait and watch ......... I shall cause I am waiting to make my final post on MF after Riddhima speaks
SO RIDDHIMA SPEAK ....SPEAK FOR LOVE OF GOD AND LADY'S DIGNITY ---- SPEAK

Updated October 12th
I was hoping my last post on MF would not need to be an apology post. Hoping Riddhima will not let my faith in this character down.

But I have made my last post containing an apology as promised


http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1507751

Please note-

1. These are writers views only about the serial and character. There is no intention of bashing any character, person or thing. Hence like previous post I shall stick to events in the serial. Go ahead and discuss however before discussing amongst yourselves please kindly recheck the episodes before commenting

2. Please be courteous in putting forth your views. Please refrain from using derogatory or abusive language Try avoiding fighting amongst yourselves.

3. I do not intend to hurt any person's feelings If it unintentionally has happened please accept my apologies